oh man, i hate that crap. assholes. there's one company i give the finger to every time i drive by them, because they had me in for three interviews and i talked to everyone from the other tech writer to the VP of engineering and nailed every single interview, and i was exactly right for the position -- *exactly* right -- and then i never heard back. i finally emailed the HR person and asked what was up, and she said "we've decided not to hire anyone right now, but stay in touch. that may change, and everyone here was really impressed with you."
and when i pinged them a couple of months later, they said maybe they could take me on as a contractor. which of course i couldn't take because i needed the benefits.
fucking assholes. i wish to fuck people wouldn't advertise jobs until they actually know what they need done, what kind of person they need, AND that they actually have a req.
Yeah. I empathize. Care to join me in Spamming the world with resumes? If the job world is a haystack, I intend on getting as many of my needles out there as possible. Hopefully those damned HR people will at least sit on 'em and skreach if nothing else!
Oftentimes it's the third-hand-from-the-left not knowing what the fifth-hand-from-the-right is doing ("I thought we had budget!" "You thought wrong"). Other times it's the corporate equivalent of speculative execution ("We need somebody, let's go through the interview process and if it works out we'll see if we can pry a req out of upper mgt").
Either way it's suckful for the poor unemployed sap who's at the mercy of these games...
Looking at this another way, you could view this as a positive -- it sounds like two companies thought you were close enough to what they wanted to give you an interview, and call your references, right?
Which suggests that you're doing something right in your job-hunting strategy, since you're getting that close.
I've had over twenty interviews in the last year, some of them resulting at least in second interviews and even the occasional contracting gig. I try not to get my hopes up or upset. I'm pretty convinced at this point that the hiring process begins pretty much anywhere with someone on the ground just needing a fairly particular list of duties covered. It then gets up into the Adminisphere where they decide if they're going to open a req the person should be able to do more than just the set of duties originally outlined. This then gets handed off to HR which inflates it with absurdities out of handbook definitions (You know the type; 'senior' means ten or more years of experience, they need a senior IT person who knows 2000 server and Exchange, therefore the posted ad ends up asking for ten years of experience in products that haven't been around that long.) Thus, candidates start showing up who bear no resemblance to the needs of whomever got the ball rolling in the first place. Since those needs were expanded, there are now more people in the interview process, so now several people get to meet directly with inappropriate hiring candidates, and in doing so rethink what they're actually looking for. So what they think they want while interviewing the first candidate is likely completely different from what they think they want interviewing the sixth. Eventually, it hits something resembling the Peter Principle where they know exactly what they want in a candidate, but they can't afford anyone who actually qualifies, and they go back to square one or just give up on hiring anyone at all. Meanwhile, you and I get chewed up and spat out by the process.
oh, geeze! :(( you're a trouper, and you will (hopefully) keep at it, and your friends will be around you feeding you chocolate and telling you to keep trying, and (sometimes) to keep your hopes up. because that's how it goes, sometimes... unfair, to be true. *big hugs and chocolate*
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Date: 2005-05-11 12:36 pm (UTC)Hugs
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Date: 2005-05-11 12:37 pm (UTC)*hug*
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Date: 2005-05-11 12:44 pm (UTC)and when i pinged them a couple of months later, they said maybe they could take me on as a contractor. which of course i couldn't take because i needed the benefits.
fucking assholes. i wish to fuck people wouldn't advertise jobs until they actually know what they need done, what kind of person they need, AND that they actually have a req.
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Date: 2005-05-11 12:54 pm (UTC)My sympathies.
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Date: 2005-05-11 01:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-11 01:37 pm (UTC)I am sure you will find something soon.
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Date: 2005-05-11 01:40 pm (UTC)Oftentimes it's the third-hand-from-the-left not knowing what the fifth-hand-from-the-right is doing ("I thought we had budget!" "You thought wrong"). Other times it's the corporate equivalent of speculative execution ("We need somebody, let's go through the interview process and if it works out we'll see if we can pry a req out of upper mgt").
Either way it's suckful for the poor unemployed sap who's at the mercy of these games...
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Date: 2005-05-11 02:17 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-11 03:00 pm (UTC)Looking at this another way, you could view this as a positive -- it sounds like two companies thought you were close enough to what they wanted to give you an interview, and call your references, right?
Which suggests that you're doing something right in your job-hunting strategy, since you're getting that close.
Good luck!
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Date: 2005-05-11 04:04 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-11 04:28 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-11 04:33 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-11 05:51 pm (UTC)Thus, candidates start showing up who bear no resemblance to the needs of whomever got the ball rolling in the first place. Since those needs were expanded, there are now more people in the interview process, so now several people get to meet directly with inappropriate hiring candidates, and in doing so rethink what they're actually looking for. So what they think they want while interviewing the first candidate is likely completely different from what they think they want interviewing the sixth. Eventually, it hits something resembling the Peter Principle where they know exactly what they want in a candidate, but they can't afford anyone who actually qualifies, and they go back to square one or just give up on hiring anyone at all. Meanwhile, you and I get chewed up and spat out by the process.
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Date: 2005-05-11 08:26 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2005-05-11 09:11 pm (UTC)I, also, became unemployed last Friday. They filled hte post with a member of the union. At least the system works.
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Date: 2005-05-11 09:25 pm (UTC)