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I went up to Baltimore to dance with Chesapeake Squares tonight. Their caller is Dayle Hodge.

It was an interesting night. They're a gay club, with a (generous) 2 hour dace time that covers Mainstream through (combined) Advanced. There were 2 MS squares and one+ for Plus and A2.

The night went (more or less): Dancer's Choice (plus tonight), MS, A, Plus (I think - this tip might not actually have occur, MS, Short A, MS (tag-team called by the 2 callers in training of the club, with Dayle watching over them, mic-in-hand to pull their bacon out of the fire if needed), 'hot hash' MS (IE: calling as fast as the calls can be done - faster than Callerlab's suggested beat count, allowing for as little space between them as possible.

I danced arky for most of the MS/Plus and Man for the A tips.

My A is still nowhere near what it should be. My arky MS/Plus is pretty good, but is still susceptible to: the occasional slide through failure, a likelihood of allemanding left to my partner rather than my corner, and more vulnerable to weakness in the square than when I'm dancing 'normal'.

This was a much touchier (in the touchy-feelie sense) club than the Minnesota Wild Roses (see an entry about them sometime in Mid-March)... each tip ended with a group Thank You (cross-armed in and out)(as opposed to the Tech out-only) FOLLOWED by a whole series of one-on-one hugs... about 20% of the time, a front-back couple (what's the term?) in a square awaiting further calls (while, say, the other square cleans themselves up), there'd be some sort of flirtatious contact.

I can't say it was all unpleasant, though there were few people there I found attractive. There were times it was a bit over the top, but I gather that the club culture is fine with that. I completely understand why Tech isn't that way, though I can't really say I'd be upset if it had more of it; I know that many would be, though, including the 'Tute, and I'm fine with it being different that way from most of the other social circles I hang out in.

My caller list has been appropriately updated.

(Oh! One of the dancers there went one of the Boston Uncommons fly-ins and expressed dismay that Tech wasn't a gay club and thus that the Tech dancers there were less likely to be appropriate flirtation targets. :)

Date: 2004-10-06 12:47 am (UTC)
cme: The outline of a seated cat woodburnt into balsa (Default)
From: [personal profile] cme
The number of people who can't dance without constant over-the-top flirting never ceases to amaze (and occasionally irritate) me. My gawd, people! It doesn't all have to be about the flirting!

More seriously, there was some pressure a little bit ago, I think for multiple years running, for Tech Squares to be listed as a gay group in some national directory of gay square dancing. Some member of the group running the directory (who happened to know a very little about Tech Squares) contacted us and leaned on us to register as a gay group on the theory that we were gay-friendly and not old people and that was good enough. Everyone I talked to was not in favor of being listed as a gay group, and was mildly irritated at the amount of pressure being brought to bear; everyone felt that while we were perfectly happy to be gay-friendly, gay culture was not a cornerstone of Tech Squares, and therefore saying we were a gay club for the purpose of advertising or filling out a roster was really inappropriate.

a front-back couple (what's the term?)

Do you mean a tandem? Like in a completed double pass thru?

In terms of club culture, it sounds pretty similar to the Uncommons, and sounds like descriptions I've heard of other gay clubs. For whatever that's worth. :)

And I have completely lost the ability to slide thru since I've started really dancing arky. :)

Date: 2004-10-06 07:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antihip.livejournal.com
FWIW, I used to be much more confused on slide thrus, and I've now danced enough arky that it doesn't really faze me anymore; when I mess up a slide thru, it's much more likely to be because I simply don't know whether I'm dancing man or woman (*snap*) than because I can't remember which direction to turn.

I've danced at Puddletown Dancers, a gay club in Seattle, and while I remember them as being touchy-feely as a group, by and large that flirtatiousness didn't extend to me. (Then again, my obliviousness to being flirted with is well-known.)

Date: 2004-10-06 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomenvy.livejournal.com
But it is all about flirting. Basic drive to propagate the species.

Date: 2004-10-06 09:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luckylefty.livejournal.com
Then why do you get so bent out of shape when someone you find unattractive flirts with you?

Date: 2004-10-06 09:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomenvy.livejournal.com
No short answer.

Long answer includes the fact that I should talk less in public, learn to keep things to myself and deal with them quietly, I would also get bent out of shape if someone attractive flirted with me under certain conditions (probably a subset of those an unattractive flirter would trigger), broken | differently calibrated feedback loops, building up to situations, whether or not I'm in Rome or not.

I'm willing to dive into details of the long answer if you want, but am trying to turn over some new leaves, so won't here.

Date: 2004-10-06 09:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antihip.livejournal.com
My dancing is very clearly not all about flirting -- it's just as clearly about improvisational goofing off and inner-ear tormenting. :-)

Date: 2004-10-06 09:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomenvy.livejournal.com
Oooh! Oooh! Oooh! Can you do flips (the heel over head kind) while you're dancing?

Date: 2004-10-06 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antihip.livejournal.com
Sadly, can't do flips; but somebody suggested a new form of goofing off involving large rotation that I'm going to try, sometime, when I remember it...

Date: 2004-10-06 11:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingdeer.livejournal.com
Yes. Yes, that's entirely clear. Yup. :)
I don't do it, but I like it. I also like the challenge of keeping "sane" in a square with lots of the goofing off happening around, and trying to keep going despite the distractions/changes/etc.

Date: 2004-10-06 11:41 am (UTC)
cme: The outline of a seated cat woodburnt into balsa (Default)
From: [personal profile] cme
Yeah, I really like that too- though perhaps unfortunately I think some people like the aggrieved noises I make when they snap at me. :)

Date: 2004-10-06 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] antihip.livejournal.com
*whistles innocently*

Date: 2004-10-06 12:26 pm (UTC)
cme: The outline of a seated cat woodburnt into balsa (Default)
From: [personal profile] cme
  1. You missed my point.
  2. I'm not breeding!
  3. http://www.livejournal.com/users/boojum/132738.html

Thank you.

Date: 2004-10-06 12:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] randomenvy.livejournal.com
/me touches index finger to nose, then crosses hands / arms in front of body with only index finger and pinky extended.

<hint>ASL</hint>

wow

Date: 2004-10-07 07:45 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonebear.livejournal.com
i didn't know you mwsd! I dance through c3b right now.

Re: wow

Date: 2004-10-07 09:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
[livejournal.com profile] dancingdeer and I do Tech Squares. We've both learned A2, though we need more practice there.

Where do you dance, and when? (I've got Tuesday off this week and next, and Monday after next available, too.)

Re: wow

Date: 2004-10-08 05:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lonebear.livejournal.com
i'll haven't danced recently. however, i will check with my favorite a2 clubs and see who dances those days. tuesday is my 'i'm not doing anything' night, so i can take you to the clubs.

we'll talk on sunday.

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