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So, there I was at Tech Squares last night, talking to a current MIT undergraduate about names.
We got to discussing my name and that there's neither a J nor a B in any of my given names.

She commented that I must really hate my given name. I said No, but that - among other things - having the initials "RMS" around here is not really a fun thing.

She looked puzzled.. Huh? Root Mean Square?

I said no, Richard M. Stallman.

She continued looking puzzled. Who?

The author of EMACS, the founder of the FSF?

Hm... never heard of him, says she.

- - -

I remain utterly weirded by this, even now.

Date: 2005-06-01 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethr.livejournal.com
RMS's time has passed. Although he doesn't necessarily believe that.

I watch his rantings on the MIT CSAIL list, and he is just not at home in the new building, nor in the new climate, etc. etc.

Then again, I hold very deep squick for him, regardless of his stature, because of forced social interaction with him in the '90s. I cannot eat at the Bertucci's on Main St., ever again, because of him.

Date: 2005-06-01 11:42 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycroft.livejournal.com
Hell, he only barely slipped by in the old building. Mostly because it was a cave and people didn't have to interact with him much. I've always suspected that he had a significant (negative) influence on the design of the new buildings.

Date: 2005-06-01 11:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bethr.livejournal.com
well, he certainly complains a lot about this one. High open spaces! A daycare! A pseudo-Starbucks!

I'm just being nasty here. I'm sure he hasn't complained about any of this per se. But I don't see him working out at the gym there either.

Stata is just a completely different culture. i couldn't stand the old building.
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FWIW, Simson knows enough about how RMS's mind works that he can mess with it, by going, "Yes I agree with you, yes, yes, yes...but what about THIS!" "this" being the procedural/ideological curveball that sends Richard on a tear because it's so close to what he was hoping for from his former disciple, and yet so...incorrect.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
Oh, look. It was your follow-up to someone's follow-up to your comment...

Date: 2005-06-01 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mama-pipa.livejournal.com
Strata has a Daycare???

*reeling from shock*

Date: 2005-06-01 12:40 pm (UTC)
ceo: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ceo
What he really objects to, of course, is that his office is now in the William H. Gates Tower.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
If you're talking about Stata - which I assume you are from someone's comment to you - I don't blame him. It's an abomination and an eyesore.

Gehry should be banned from architecture, imho.

If he went back to sculpture, through, I'd probably be happy. (See: http://collections.walkerart.org/item/object.html?id=570 )

Date: 2005-06-01 07:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miss-chance.livejournal.com
I, of course, completely disagree with you, absolutely and totally on this point.

Date: 2005-06-03 06:23 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sauergeek.livejournal.com
Not only should Gehry be banned from architecture, the committee that hired him should be collectively sacked. Ugh.

Date: 2005-06-01 11:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycroft.livejournal.com
Especially since he used to go to Tech Squares.

But really, she's better off that way.

Date: 2005-06-01 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tisiphone.livejournal.com
*blink*
are you sure she was an MIT student and not a Johnson and Wales student crashing?

Date: 2005-06-01 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aerynne.livejournal.com
For a while I toyed with the whimsical idea of getting the license plate RM S 4VR. Then I decided that that was too geeky even for me. Then it occurred to me that it could be interpreted as RMS 4VR. Then I was *really glad* I hadn't done it.

Date: 2005-06-01 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electriccat.livejournal.com
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAH!!!!!!!!

NICE.!! its certainly better than FSCK or anything remotely related to mounting.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
You know, I'm not getting it.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aerynne.livejournal.com
Think expanding to "rm is forever" and "rms forever". :)

Date: 2005-06-01 12:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] deguspice.livejournal.com
Did she at least know what EMACS is?

Date: 2005-06-01 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
Yep. She's an EMACS user. Made it even more boggling.

Date: 2005-06-01 12:22 pm (UTC)
cme: The outline of a seated cat woodburnt into balsa (Default)
From: [personal profile] cme
The undergrads, they are so little and young! Look, baaaaaby nerds!

Although, honestly, I didn't have a clue who RMS was when I was a frosh (though I learned soon thereafter). And current undergraduates aren't coming to a computing environment with the proverbial blank slate they were a while back; they know all about computers. Computers run Windows or MacOS! (So I'd actually be more surprised if they had context for RMS.)

Date: 2005-06-01 01:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
As I noted to Deguspice, she's an emacs user...

Date: 2005-06-01 12:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
He was hitting on me at one point... unusual man.

Date: 2005-06-01 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jim-p.livejournal.com
Hey, anyone recognizably female and breathing who he hasn't hit on, please speak up now!

[crickets...]

Thought so...

("Would you like a grape?")

Date: 2005-06-01 12:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] blk
He hasn't hit on me.
Then again, I've never met him, seeing as I live 500 miles away.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietann.livejournal.com
He's never hit on me (fortunately) but both times I met him, I was dating someone in the immediate vicinity.

I have, however, been hit upon by Eric Raymond ("Eric the Flute"), at
the height of his Red Hat fortune.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
'course, whilst hitting on me he also took to lecturing.

grape???

Date: 2005-06-01 01:39 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
For at least a couple of years, his opening social line to just about everyone was "would you like a grape?" (Yes, actual physical grapes, the sort you'd get at any supermarket.)

Date: 2005-06-01 01:51 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mycroft.livejournal.com
Don't forget the part about stuffing the grape in the target's cleavage.

Date: 2005-06-01 02:04 pm (UTC)
redbird: closeup of me drinking tea, in a friend's kitchen (Default)
From: [personal profile] redbird
That I was spared. Then again, in my case I'm fairly sure it wasn't meant as a sexual approach.

Date: 2005-06-01 03:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] keyne.livejournal.com
He was my houseguest a few years ago, and he never hit on me.

He was traveling with a woman at the time, though, fwiw.

Date: 2005-06-01 04:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfkitn.livejournal.com
hah!

i may well be the anomaly that you seek. i worked for FSF for the better part of 6 years and to my knowledge, RMS never once hit on me.

then again, i'm notoriously oblivious to such things... ;)

Date: 2005-06-02 06:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rmd.livejournal.com
Hey, anyone recognizably female and breathing who he hasn't hit on, please speak up now!

if he ever did, i didn't notice.

Date: 2005-06-02 11:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tovahs.livejournal.com
He hit on me one time at a SF con. A long time ago at a August Party I think is when I met him.

Date: 2005-06-01 12:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trysha.livejournal.com
Wow, that is odd.

Of course, one person not knowing who RMS is shouldn't be too big of a paradox. More than one in that given area though, that'd be odd.

(oh, can i get you to punch the button for those domains i sent you the $$ for :) :) :)

Date: 2005-06-01 01:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] miraclaire.livejournal.com
*blink*

There isn't a J or a B in any of your given names?

On the other hand, I've vaguely heard of Richard Stallman... but I wouldn't have known why the name was familiar if you hadn't said anything about EMACS.

Date: 2005-06-01 01:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jbsegal.livejournal.com
Nope. My mother didn't name me "Jailbait".

Date: 2005-06-01 08:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kimberlogic.livejournal.com
Neither did I :)

But I am the creator/origin of "JB" ... mostly because I couldn't really wrap my head around dating (and later marrying) someone routinely referred to as Jailbait or 'bait.

Bunnylove :)

What's So Astonishing?

Date: 2005-06-01 01:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] feste-sylvain.livejournal.com
The things that RMS is famous for are things that he did the year the current graduating undergrads were born.

Re: What's So Astonishing?

Date: 2005-06-01 01:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awfief.livejournal.com
*agreed* and not everyone who goes to MIT is a computer geek.

I'm sure had it come up in conversation, she'd be utterly aghast that you don't know what it's like to be emo. Or something else that's totally ingrained in her culture that's not in yours.

Re: What's So Astonishing?

Date: 2005-06-01 01:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quietann.livejournal.com
Also, well, MIT has been trying to admit more "well-rounded" students
recently. There is less room for geeks, now.

Re: ummm...

Date: 2005-08-27 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] awfief.livejournal.com
http://www.fourfa.com/ (http://www.fourfa.com/) I don't quite get it myself.

Re: What's So Astonishing?

Date: 2005-06-01 05:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] electriccat.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's kind of like this girl who was in an evening Spanish 101 class I took years ago - didn't know who John Lennon was.

She was perhaps, in her early 20's at the time (this was 1998 or so)

*boggle*

Although I would never dare compare RMS to John Lennon.

Although I suppose one could say that RMS is a bit like a rock star in the geek world - maybe like the um... David Lee Roth of the geek world?

Re: What's So Astonishing?

Date: 2005-06-01 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xeger.livejournal.com
I haven't quite lived down the kid that wanted to tell me all about this great new band named 'Queen' he'd just discovered...

Date: 2005-06-01 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vettecat.livejournal.com
That's pretty scary...

Kids these days...

Date: 2005-08-27 02:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] happypete.livejournal.com
Then again, what's he done for us lately?
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